Re: [colorforth] Booting from HDD

[Nick Maroudas <alice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Jason, 

If it's decimal 9492 that would be hex 2514 which (by
my
 reckoning, based on Tim Neitz's NASM complete
printout)
means that your load has progressed 5/6 of the way
through the 3000h kernel, and is about ready to
"accept:" the first word from block 18.  But can block
18 have been loaded (or, for that matter, can any mod
be saved?) if your flash disk is not emulating a
floppy?
IMHO you are on the right track. Perhaps one of the
"start" words in CF (start0, start1, start2) expect
somewhere that CF was booted from a floppy. 

 Unfortunately, as a mere "consumer grade" forther, 
I cannot offer practical advice; all I know is that,
like your FreeDOS, Sidux on my flash drive shows up as
a second Hard Disc.  How about some practical input
from the person who wrote the USB code in CF05? Who
prepared the flash disc for SEAFORTH? Though I guess
Jason might prefer to chew this nice big bone in his
own corner.              

Meanwhile, my local computer shop has ceased to stock
floppy discs.   

Quoting Jason Kemp <jason.kemp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

>... " Dear Nick,
>... " 
>... " Sorry, I sent this yesterday but it's been
>... " bounced back.
>... " 
>... " It doesn't boot from a flash drive.
>... " 
>... " The board has a Phoenix BIOS and it identifies a
>... " USB flash drive in the 
>... " BIOS setup as "USB-HDD0" so I assume it is
>... " emulating a hard disk--in 
>... " fact I had the same flash drive running FreeDOS
>... " before (so I could run 
>... " Pygmy) and DOS saw it as the C: drive.  So if
>... " it's emulating a HDD then 
>... " I expect that is why colorForth Won't boot
>... " fully--it displays "P9492" in 
>... " the top right though, which I assume is from the
>... " progress routine in 
>... " boot.asm.  Lots of guessing and assuming at the
>... " mo!
>... " 
>... " Just a brief Google of USB Flash booting and it
>... " appears that in some AMI 
>... " BIOSes give a forced FDD emulation option.
>... " 
>... " Jason
>... " 
>... " Nick Maroudas said the following on 14/03/2008
>... " 20:36:
>... " > Dear Jason,
>... " >
>... " > Looking forward to more from you and John
>... " Comeau, on how
>... " > to boot (and save?) with his iso on your flash
>... " drive.  
>... " >
>... " > Re your not finding a version that works on a
>... " 3GHz P4,
>... " > I
>... " > have the same experience with 3.3 GHz PD on
>... " Intel945
>... " > board. None of the following booted properly -
>... " not
>... " > John's CD of CFDOS4, nor floppies with Chuck's
>... " CF01,
>... " > nor the Neitz/StMarie CF01, nor Josh's CF05
>... " and a
>... " > related CF05 from Ray - though every one of
>... " these ran
>... " > reliably on my 0.55 GHz P4/ASUS P2. However
>... " (to my
>... " > relief!) Howerd Oakford's CFDOS4 (from
>... " Howerd's
>... " > website)
>... " > runs on both the old and the new machine. 
>... " >
>... " > http://www.inventio.co.uk/
>... " >
>... " > Scratching around for a possible reason, I
>... " found JC's 
>... " > meticulous comparison View of
>... " > /colorforth/boot_asm_list.txt on
>... " SourceForge.net. 
>... " > According to my understanding of John's list,
>... " number 11
>... " > is the only one for sure that "has VESA code
>... " instead of
>... " > AGP" - VESA/VBE being the new standard for
>... " graphics
>... " > software of course. 
>... " > JC lists number 11 as
>... " "/usr/src/howerd/VESA/boot.asm" 
>... " > but no. 10 is also by Howerd
>... " > "/usr/src/howerd/Quartus/BOOT.ASM # same as
>... " Kris
>... " > Johnson's"
>... " > so I am not sure which boot.asm is used to
>... " boot Howerd's
>... " > floppy, and which one is used to boot John's
>... " CD (and
>... " > your USB flash drive). But if VESA/VBE does
>... " indeed
>... " > turn out to be crucial for some newer
>... " machines, then I
>... " > shall owe it to JC's method for spotting the
>... " difference
>... " > :-) 
>... " >
>... " > Caritas,
>... " >
>... " > NickM
>... " >

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