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[colorforth] Re: objects and forth


albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Albert van der Horst) writes:

> On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 01:10:46PM -0500, David J. Goehrig wrote:
>
> I think it is important not to forget that Chuck well aware of what
> McCarthy was doing in 1958 when Lisp was formulated, and the Germans and
> Americans developed Algol in a comittee that same year. That was really
> the critical year in the history of programming, and we've basically
> been stuck with the idioms formalized in that year. In many ways, we're
> still fighting that battle, and sadly the Algol people are winning. :)
>
> Please limit your lines to 72 char's. I had to reformat.

That means that your viewer doesn't support formatting on the fly,
which is pretty strange thing in modern days. It only costs several
lines of code and negligible CPU time to process.

> There is a crucial difference between C FORTH FORTRAN PERL
> on one side and PASCAL ALGOL ADA PYTHON on the other.
> Only Americans don't seem to appreciate the difference.
> The US languages are disorganized and full of oddities, irregularities
> and add hoc constructions, unsafe allbeith practical.
> The European languages have a theoretical base, are regular, easier to
> understand and memorize and safer.
>
> Yes! Algol is winning. At long last runtime array bounds checking is
> added to the GCC compiler. And guess what? It only costs a few
> percent in performance.
>
> Most people thing PYTHON is way superior over PERL.
>
> Why are you sad?
>
>> PS. Lisp is just Polish Notation Forth, it about think :)
>
> Forth is reverse polish LISP.

Since you started talking about European language tradition,
why not POP-11?


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